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I didn't mean to say they are stifing innovation because they won't let some UI hipsters gain access to their data but because they aren't willing to cooperate at all, AND don't do anything to make internet classifieds anything other than what it already is. from 12 years ago.

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Clearly people are still finding value on CL. Hacker News readers are in a demographic that views the internet and the web VERY differently from how people who do not create internet services for a living view them. Padmapper is not doing any of that hard work. It is my opinion, if you're doing the hard work of building the community and attracting the users, then you'll agree with CL on this issue.

will be hard, for sure, but it can and will be done eventually. So it isn't really preventing anybody from Nike Air Max 90 Jacquard Women's usurping his throne."But when you add that monopoly, and then stifle innovation because you are either lazy or incompetent is not doing the world any good. "I hear this argument over and over, that CL is stifling innovation and I Nike Air Max 90 Women Red

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jetti 756 days ago link

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Why should they spend money and time because you are whining their interface is ugly and hasn't changed? I can apply this argument to 50% of the websites I visit every day. You may not like the website, but it's marketplace first, website second. And successful. Those aren't mutually exclusive things. Newspapers are broken yet they'll do nearly $20 billion of dollars in revenue this year. They were broken and did peak revenue in 2005. Nokia was broken but had record profits two years ago. It's just going to take longer than any of us reasonably expect.

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"Generally, the guy is sitting on top of a monopoly and is actively choosing to do nothing with it other than collect money, and prevent anyone from usurping his throne."There is nothing stopping somebody from coming up with a site that beats craigslist, nothing at all. It Nike Air Max Galaxy Black

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I don't think its overblown. The major issue here is CraigsList owns the network for internet classifieds, but hasn't done anything to improve their product in a decade. My guess is everyone thinks CraigsList works wonderfully because we haven't had an opportunity to see anything better. Its like saying Camera phones are the best thing ever, but its because you've never seen an iPhone.

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jetti 756 days ago link

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jetti 756 days ago link

Those aren't reasons that they are stifling innovation. They are just not providing an easy in for other companies, which most companies don't do either. If Craigslist didn't exist the field would be exactly the same, the new companies would face a chicken and the egg problem. Although that being said, CL is in a unique position where they have been able to hold their market share without innovation or even much change.

just don't see it. It seems like a bunch of would be competitors want an easy in. There is nothing stopping a competitor from taking over, except a large amount of work. Just because a company won't let anybody use their data, doesn't mean they are stifling innovation. It would be a different story if CL tried to claim IP protection on internet classifieds but that isn't the case.

alttab 756 days ago link

Craigslist now asks for exclusive license when posting

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res0nat0r 756 days ago link

they would eliminate the chicken and egg problem and can slowly get their own data 'til they wouldn't need CL data. How is that in CL's interest to let that happen?

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"Craig Newmark is a lazy monopolist at this point. All profit taking, no innovation."This argument is way overblown. If you ask most companies for the data they generate, they would say no. The moment that other sites can start using CL data is the moment that the CL stranglehold will slip. Currently, others can build a product and then fight for users to come. If they were able to use CL data Air Max 90 Reverse Infrared On Feet

All profit taking, no innovation.

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